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 Post subject: BONUSES FOR THE BANKSTERS DESPITE TAXPAYERS BAILOUTS
PostPosted: 21 Oct 2008, 10:42 pm 
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'Arrogant' Lloyds to pay bonuses despite bail-out

LLOYDS TSB has been accused of arrogance after telling staff they will get bonuses this year despite the government crackdown on rewards at banks receiving taxpayers' money.
by Jonathan Prynn, Consumer Affairs Editor
21.10.2008

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23575809-details/%27Arrogant%27+Lloyds+to+pay+bonuses+despite+bail-out/article.do

There was a furious reaction today as it emerged chief executive Eric Daniels told employees that Lloyds TSB would continue with its bonus payments, despite the injection of up to £5.5 billion of government funds.

Mr Daniels said the bank faced "very, very few restrictions" on the way it conducts itself even with government nominated directors on the board.

In a recorded message, he added: "If you think about it, the first restriction was not to pay bonuses. I think our staff have done a terrific job this year. There is no reason why we shouldn't."

His words infuriated Eddie Weatherill of the Independent Banking Advisory Service. He said: "It's typical bank arrogance, to be blunt."

"Everybody else in the country is going to pay for the bankers' actions and unfortunately the bankers don't see they are the biggest problem.

"Banks do have to be restricted because this is a gigantic bail-out by anybody's standards and the taxpayers are taking the risk. The banks are avaricious when it comes to money for themselves and the taxpayers' money has to be protected."

Matthew Elliott, head of the TaxPayers' Alliance, said bonuses should be conditional on repaying taxpayer funds at a good rate.

He said: "There will be a huge backlash if ordinary families' money goes towards large bonuses in banks which needed taxpayers' help just to survive."

Gordon Brown said last week a curb on unjustified bonuses would be a condition of receiving money from taxpayers.

Lloyds TSB sees itself in a different situation from the two worst affected banks, Royal Bank of Scotland and HBOS. Lloyds TSB is acquiring crippled HBOS in a rescue takeover that could leave the taxpayer owning 40 per cent of the combined group.

However, Mr Daniels is clearly concerned about the impact on staff morale at one of Britain's stronger banks if bonuses to workers below board level are axed.

Britain's financial services sector received around two thirds of the £26 billion in bonuses handed out to employees last year.

The news comes as a survey of City workers revealed two thirds still expected to get a bonus this year, with many expecting to get even more than last year.
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When many small businesses are dreading the inevitably of making lay-offs of loyal employees, many house-owners are crippled by increasing costs and all taxpayers are facing more of their future income being deducted to pay for the bankers' bail-outs, the payment of bonuses to staffs of failed banks that are surviving only at the public's expense is not just arrogant, but morally corrupt. Eric Daniels should bow his head in shame, apologise unreservedly to all taxpayers and resign instantly. The Government should take measures to add every bail-out penny, paid out in bonuses between now and until the full bail-out cost is repaid, to the Bank's debt to the taxpayer's.

- Mark Hennessy, London

If you were to look at the under lying viability of Lloyds-TSB you will find that they were one of the few banks with very positive balance sheets. These were the result of prudent banking and good management and the employees of the bank made this possible.

Now that they are being asked to take on HBOS and a lot of risk they do need Government capital to ease the transition and re-build that bank's fiscal reputation.

I do not think that bonuses are out-of-order for a past performances and one hopes that the future will also permit more incentives to be paid.

- De Ruyter, St. Albans

Take the government money back and let them go bust; why should taxpayers be expected to fund bonuses in the current climate.

- Casper Slides, Ibiza, Spain

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Lloyds TSB and HBOS won't get £17bn from taxpayer if they don't merge, says Lord Mandelson
Lord Mandelson has warned that Lloyds TSB and HBOS will not get their £17bn rescue package unless the planned merger goes ahead, increasing Government pressure on shareholders to vote in favour of the deal.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/3236080/Lloyds-TSB-and-HBOS-wont-get-17bn-from-taxpayer-if-they-dont-merge-says-Lord-Mandelson.html




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