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MORPHALLAXIS, January 14, 1979.

PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ QUESTIONS THE CANDIDATES ON THE PRINCIPLES OF ECONOMY

DECEMBER 29, 2007

PREFACE

Inherently, to reject or ignore our questions to the 2008 presidential candidates is to oppose the consistent propositions of Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, and many other exemplary contributors to our history. Our country's existence and the cause of freedom itself owe to a lineage of founders who uniformly opposed a privatized currency which can only bankrupt the people; and which is bankrupting the people.

Today, contrary to their teachings and contrary to the principles of representation and free enterprise, such a currency has been imposed across the world for the obvious purpose of perpetual multiplication of unearned profit. No one in history has demonstrated how it is possible and practical even to maintain a circulation subject to interest without suffering irreversible multiplication of debt in proportion to the circulation. Debt is multiplied upon the entire world by this unassented and unjustified process as, merely to maintain a vital circulation, we are forced to perpetually re-borrow whatever we pay against principal and interest obligations as subsequent debts, increased so much as periodic interest.

Obviously, this perpetually increases the unearned profit (interest) of international usurers, even until the costs of servicing debt terminate our commerce. We ask the following questions then because they prove or disprove the possibility of representation; we ask the following questions because we already know that the candidates who will not answer, and the candidates who will not answer to our complete satisfaction, cannot serve us.

Of course, we are already reasonably certain who will and will not answer, because only money can sustain candidates who by ineptitude or adverse disposition will never restore representation. On the hand, it costs nothing to testify to the truth.

The answers then, or the lack thereof, are sufficient testaments to representation or usurpation.

NEGOTIATING THIS PAGE

On December 29, 2007, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ submitted the following questions to the declared Democrat and Republican presidential candidates. We will also of course publish responses from declared independent candidates.

Our questions to the candidates are furnished below the main heading of this page (below). The candidates' answers (if any) and the candidates' official campaign pages may be accessed from the INDEX OF CANDIDATES as follows:

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INDEX OF CANDIDATES

Thomas Jefferson

"If the American people ever allow banks to issue their currency, first by inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and [bank owned] corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Michael Rivero

Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it.

To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker, but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.

Edith Hamilton

"When the freedom they wished for most was the freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free, and never was free again."

Mark Twain

"The government is merely a servant — merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, or to decide who is a patriot and who is not. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them."

"In the beginning of change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

WINSTON CHURCHILL

"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, and still yet if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you, and only a precarious chance for survival.

There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Samuel Adams, brother of President John Adams and principal instigator of the Boston Tea Party

Speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776

"If you love [the promise of dispossessed] wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you [or allow you to eat, only for the while]. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye [who would neither stand for or deserve what is right] were our countrymen."

PRESIDENT JOHN ADAMS

President John Adams.

LETTER TO THOMAS JEFFERSON:

"All the perplexities, confusions and distresses in America arise not from defects in the Constitution or confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation."

Wayne LaPierre

"Freedom is never an achieved state. Like electricity, we must keep generating it, or the lights go out. We now witness a fire sale of American liberty at the bargain basement price of the false promise of security. The America being designed this moment will not resemble the America we have been defending. The danger is not that Big Brother may storm the castle gates. The danger is that Americans will not realize he is already inside the castle walls."

William Pitt the Younger, speech on the India Bill, November, 1783

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

"To the American people I bid a fond farewell. Guard your liberties. It is the trust of each generation to pass a free republic to the next. If I know you right, you will rouse yourself from slumber to ensure exactly that."

MARTIN LUTHER KING

"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."

"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."

AYN RAND

Ayn Rand.

"When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket, and then that society vanishes in a spread of ruins and slaughter. Do you wish to know whether that day is coming?

Watch Money. Money is a barometer of a society's virtue.

When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need permission from men who produce nothing — when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that our society is doomed.

Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot. Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men's protection, and the base of a moral existence."

PRESIDENT WOODROW WILSON

President Woodrow Wilson.

As Congressman Louis T. McFadden notes in his June 10, 1932 appearance before Congress (excerpted below), the platform of the Democrat Party explicitly promised not to create a central bank. President Wilson thus violated campaign promises to make one of the most destructive mistakes in history — the unassented creation of the private banking monopoly intentionally given the deceptive name, "Federal Reserve."

While the 1912 election was won on this dishonored promise, Wilson was instrumental in passing the so-called Federal Reserve Act on the eve of December 23, 1913, in the Christmas absence of the many legislators who opposed it.

Guilt surely contributed to a stroke and infirmity in his final term. He took shame to his grave:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.

A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation therefore, and all our activities, are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

CONGRESSMAN LOUIS T. MCFADDEN

Congressman Louis T. McFadden served as Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency from 1920 thru 1931. The following excerpts are from a speech which is now difficult to obtain from the Congressional Record, in which he addressed the House of Representatives in the midst of the first Great Depression, June 10, 1932.

INTRODUCTORY REMARKS

Mr. Chairman, at the present session of Congress we have been dealing with emergency situations. We have been dealing with the effects of things, rather than the cause of things.

In this particular discussion, I shall deal with some of the causes that lead up to these proposals. There are underlying principles which are responsible for conditions such as we have at the present time, and I shall deal with one of these in particular which is tremendously important in the consideration you are now giving this bill.

Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.

The Federal Reserve Board has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself; and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are NOT government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.

In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who send money into states to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again their gigantic train of crime.

Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who came here from Europe. Those bankers took money out of this country to finance Japan in a war against Russia. They created a reign of terror in Russia with our money in order to help that war along. They instigated the separate peace with Germany and Russia, and thus drove a wedge between the allies in the World War. [WWI]

[Elsewhere in this speech, Congressman McFadden unknowingly testifies that the Federal Reserve is removing sixty billion dollars annually in gold from the U.S. Treasury to finance the military preparations of Hitler for WWII, and even to pay the debts of the corresponding Japanese military expansion to German munitions makers. World War II would occur seven years later.]

They financed Trotsky's mass meetings of discontent and rebellion in New York. They paid Trotsky's passage from New York to Russia so he might assist in the destruction of the Russian Empire. They fomented and instigated the Russian revolution, and they placed a large fund of American dollars at Trotsky's disposal in one of their branch banks in Sweden, so that through him Russian homes might be thoroughly broken up and Russian children flung far and wide from their natural protectors. They have since begun the breaking up of American homes and the dispersal of American children.

It has been said that President Wilson was deceived by the attentions of these bankers and by the philanthropic poses they assumed. It has been said that when he discovered the manner in which he had been misled by Colonel House, he turned against that busybody, that "holy monk" of the financial empire, and showed him the door. He had the grace to do that; and in my opinion he deserves great credit for it.

President Wilson was a victim of deception. When he came to the Presidency, he had certain qualities of mind and heart which entitled him to a high place in the councils of this Nation. But there was one thing he was not, and which he never aspired to be: He was not a banker.

He said that he knew very little about banking. It was therefore on the advice of others that the iniquitous Federal Reserve Act — the death warrant of American Liberty — became law in his administration.

CONCLUSION OF SPEECH

Mr. Chairman, last December I introduced a resolution here asking for an examination and audit of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, and all related matters. If the House sees fit to make such an investigation, the people of the United States will obtain information of great value.

This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Consequently, nothing should be concealed from the people.

The man who knows or suspects that a crime has been committed, and who conceals or covers up that crime, is an accessory to it. Mr. Speaker, it is a monstrous thing for this great Nation of people to have its destinies presided over by a traitorous government board acting in secret concert with international usurers.

Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power. But the truth is, the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the government of the United States.

It controls everything here; and it controls our foreign relations. It makes or breaks governments at will. No man, and no body of men, is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.

These evil-doers have robbed this country of more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the National Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be restored to the people. The people have a valid claim against the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. If that claim is enforced, Americans will not need to stand in bread lines. Homes will be saved. Families will be kept.

The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed; and the Federal Reserve Banks — having violated their charters — should be liquidated immediately. Faithless government officers who have violated their oaths of office should be impeached and brought to trial.

Unless this is done by us, I predict the American people — outraged, robbed, pillaged, insulted, and betrayed as they are in their own land — will rise in their wrath and send a President here who WILL sweep the money changers from the temple."

Nicole McGill

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The definition of America or rather what it should be. We believe in PEACE, LOVE, FREEDOM, EQUALITY AND LIBERTY.

No longer divided by party affiliations or sexual orientations, We want a leader who can uphold his or her constitutional obligations.

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Nicole McGill

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  • OPEN INVITATION — INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES MAY RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS TO BE LISTED HERE.

PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ QUESTIONS THE CANDIDATES ON THE PRINCIPLES OF ECONOMY

  1. INHERENT, IRREVERSIBLE, ARTIFICIAL MULTIPLICATION OF DEBT

    PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ (PFMPE™) postulates that any purported economy involving currency subject to interest ultimately terminates itself under insoluble debt.

    Said postulate maintains that merely to maintain a vital circulation, the subjects of the system are perpetually forced to re-borrow whatever they pay against principal and interest as subsequent debts, increased so much as periodic interest.

    Thus for the sake of unearned profit, not only is debt inherently and irreversibly multiplied by ever greater increments in proportion to a circulation, the costs of servicing debt inherently increase by ever greater increments in proportion to a circulation — potentially or inevitably until the costs of servicing debt equal or exceed the entire circulation.

    Said postulate thus maintains that the subject industry can collapse no later than such a moment, as the entire circulation is devoted to servicing debt, and therefore nothing whatever remains to sustain commerce.

    1. YES or NO; Can such a process possibly serve the people?

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    2. If so [yes], how?

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    3. YES or NO; Do you recognize such a process exists?

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    4. YES or NO; Do you recognize therefore that it is inevitable that such a system perpetually multiplies debt in proportion to a circulation?

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    5. If NO/NOT; Can you demonstrate how it is possible and practical to maintain a circulation without debt multiplying in proportion to a circulation?

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    6. If NO or NOT; How do you explain the escalation of public and private debt in proportion to our means?

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    7. If, as PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy postulates, interest multiplies debt in proportion to our means, is it possible to avoid suffering an ultimate failure as a consequence of insoluble debt but by eradicating interest; and, if it is otherwise possible to avert inherent failure engendered by interest, how will we avert such a failure under your presidency?

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  2. INFLATION AND DEFLATION

    PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ (PFMPE™) postulates that there is one and one only solution to either a) the traditional definitions of inflation and deflation, or b) the contemporary connotation or definition of inflation.

    1. In the first case:

      Given that the respective traditional definitions of inflation and deflation are increases or decreases in circulation per the goods and services for which the circulation was issued, PFMPE™ demonstrates that the singular solution of inflation and deflation is:

      1) to maintain a circulation which at all times is equal to the remaining value of the goods and services for which the circulation is issued; and

      2) to eliminate multiplication of debt in proportion to the circulation, so that the circulation can be devoted consistently to paying off the related (interest free) debt.

      1. YES or NO; Do you dispute this proposition?

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      2. If YES, how do you dispute this proposition?

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      3. If you dispute this proposition, how do we truly solve the fundamental cause of said inflation and deflation?

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    2. In the second case:

      The connotation or meaning of inflation is taken as adversely increasing costs.

      PFMPE™ material demonstrates that the only intrinsic cause of increasing costs is the multiplying costs of servicing artificially multiplied debt. Therefore it is impossible to solve the fundamental cause of this definition of inflation without eradicating interest.

      1. YES or NO; Do you dispute this proposition?

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      2. If YES, how do you dispute this proposition?

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      3. If you dispute this proposition, how do we truly solve the fundamental cause of said inflation?

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    3. Under the present central banking systems of the world, it has been claimed for a hundred years by media speaking in a singular voice, that bankers fight inflation by maintaining elevated interest rates.

      PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ claims conversely that this policy obstructs commerce from increasing prices as is necessary to account for erosion of profit margins under escalating costs of servicing debt; and that the policy diverts the necessary earned income of commerce to unearned income of the central banking system?

      1. How do you refute this proposition?

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      2. How can you prove this policy serves the people?

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  3. INTRINSIC MANIPULATION OF THE VALUE OF MONEY OR PROPERTY

    One of the greatest offenses against the people is intrinsic devaluation of the currency and artificial multiplication of the costs to the people of their very production.

    PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ materially demonstrates that this offense cannot be prevented without solving said traditional definitions of inflation and deflation, and without eradicating interest.

    1. Do you agree that intrinsic devaluation of the currency and artificial multiplication of the costs to the people of their very own production is an offense against them?

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    2. If not, why not?

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    3. Is it possible to solve this offense otherwise?

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    4. If so [yes], how?

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  4. Mathematically Perfected Economy™

    PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ thus proposes that there is one and one only integral solution altogether to inflation, deflation, intrinsic manipulation of the value or costs of money or property, and inherent, irreversible multiplication of debt.

    We claim that this one possible solution is to loan necessary funds which are not subject to interest into circulation, and to pay all such resultant debts at the rate of consumption or depreciation of the related asset, which rates are equivalent.

    In the case of a $100,000 home with a 100-year lifespan therefore, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ material thus demonstrates that the debtor pays against the home at the overall rate of $1,000 per year, or $83.33 per month.

    1. With all debts and the costs of servicing all debts being so much decreased from what we now suffer under usury, how do you justify perpetuating the present system?

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    2. How are the processes of the present system designed to benefit the people?

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    3. Given the proposition of Mathematically Perfected Economy™ and the prospect of the ultimate consequence of irreversible multiplication of debt by interest, what if anything do you intend to do about the purported rectitude of the present, uneconomic system?

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  5. Nomenclature

    1. Is the Federal Reserve actually a conglomeration of private entities, or is it a true formal branch of the federal government?

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    2. If you say it is a true formal branch of the federal government, what branch of the federal government does it belong to; what law was it created under; and what truly lawful regulations therefore restrict it from all unassented processes which might be imposed upon the people?

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    3. If you answer that it is a conglomeration of private entities, would you at least be conducive to revising the present deceptive terminology to indicate that the said establishment is private, and that it exists to take unearned profit from us, however multiplied?

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    4. Is the so called Federal Reserve actually itself a reserve of anything?

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    5. If so, how does this attribute actually serve us?

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    6. If not, would you be willing to strike this misleading nomenclature from all references to said institution?

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  6. Constitutionality

    1. Do you consider the so called Federal Reserve System Constitutional?

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    2. What Constitutional authority exists to create the so called Federal Reserve System?

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    3. Why would any intelligent populace intend to subject itself to privatization of its currency, for illimitable multiplication of unearned profit?

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  7. Assent

    According to Congressional testimony of Congressman Louis T. McFadden, and according to substantial further material, the explicit Democrat party platform of the 1912 presidential election promised that the Democrats would not create a central bank. Assumably, the Republican party was defeated in this election by opposition to its proposition of creating a central bank under its Aldrich Bill/Plan. Nonetheless, not even a year after the Democrats prevailed in this election, on the even of December 23, 1913, the so called Federal Reserve Act was passed.

    President Wilson later regretted his great error; in effect he regretted that he had been deceived by usurers.

    He said:

    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.

    A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation therefore, and all our activities, are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

    Only fifteen years after its unlawful creation, the so called Federal Reserve plunged our nation and the world into the worst depression we have so far known. Yet its principles are not seriously questioned in the halls of our government; it has never been subjected to public assent; it has never even been seriously endangered by any rightful quest of the people.

    1. Do you deny us the right to rectify the faults of this system?

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    2. Do you deny us the right to approve or disapprove of this unassented system?

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    3. If it is impossible even to prove to our complete satisfaction that this unassented system is to our benefit, and if you refuse to tear down this unassented system otherwise, it is reasonable of course that we, the people of the United States of America, hold you in contempt of our due representation.

      Do you believe you should be allowed to pretend you serve us in light of these disparities?

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mike montagne — PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™.

"To find the players in all the corruption of the world, 'Follow the money.' To find the captains of world corruption, follow the money all the way."

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